Featuring quick-take-down, tools-free disassembly, it’s also a great stowaway emergency/survival gun for the camp, boat, or truck. (60 mm) OAL to the now standard 1.700 in. Their practical skills tend to end with addition, as in: “add up this column of figures….”. I have to concur on your sentiments about the deer in Michigan. I’ve lived here most of my 60 years and have only needed to go down into Detroit 4 or 5 times. The Bushwhacker has about exactly the same taper as a .223, so I’m guessing it’s the rebated rim that’s the problem. Other Guns: Savage, CVA, and several other makers have bolt actions, break-actions, and more available. amazing rifle for deer. I believe that their name will soon be synonymous to AR hunting and I couldn’t be prouder that they are in Michigan. [3], Bushmaster requested[when?] That leaves the ammo to build, but Norma makes 7.62X39 ammo, in brass cases, with boxer priming. I only had my life threatened one of those times. Hell a 22lr will kill deer but use an ethical round and shot placement. 1) is legal in Iowa I just put a feeler out to RCBS to see if they would be interested in doing the chamber reamer. Like my father would often say “Ohio does keep Kentucky from bumping into Michigan”. I ended up having to modify almost every part in the action, including the magazines. Brownells is your source for Rifle Barrels,Barrel Parts at Brownells parts and accessories. After one incident I got my car back from 2 weeks in the body shop and 10 days later it was right back to the shop from another hit. I knew absolutely nothing about this Cartridge before this article so I guess I learned something. Standard Patriot features include drop box magazines, recessed crowns, fluted barrels, spiral fluted bolt streamlined bolt handle, Weaver scope bases, patented Lightning Bolt Action LBA® user-adjustable trigger system. Anything else isn’t worth discussing because Iowa will never change its laws- so I shoot the best of what’s allowed. I have been to their facility and have seen with my own eyes the level of engineering and innovation that has been done to produce the finest .450 hunting rifles available. Offered in twenty chamberings, the rifle features a sporter carbon fiber composite gunstock and a stainless steel radial muzzle brake built around a light target contour Christensen Arms carbon fiber wrapped barrel. Cooper was dissatisfied with the small-diameter 5.56×45mm NATO (.223 Remington) of the AR-15, and envisioned a need for a large bore (.44 cal or greater) cartridge in a semi-automatic rifle to provide one-shot kills on big-game animals at 250 yards. Just wanted to say this is my caliber to make an “ignorant” AR pistol from. Some of the best whitetail deer hunting in the country is in S.E. I own 2, an AR I built(20″ mid gas barrel) and a Ruger American 16″ and never had a problem. It can be shot out of as classy a rifle as the Ruger No. The cartridge was designed, albeit poorly, to fit into an AR mag and action. I hunted with a muzzle brake on my rifle, but I wouldn’t recommend it. Here in NY most shots are under 100yd. (45 mm) case and 2.362 in. I’ve left the brake off for good, as I dont use hearing protection in the scrub. Tikka extra large bolt handle. Certainly a lot quieter than my 24″ 7mm Mag Tikka. The laminate stock comes with a sporting-style recoil pad. I’d like to see some dedicated hot bolt-action loads that have a longer OAL to prevent them from fitting in an AR mag at some point in the future. The .450 Bushmaster has come of age and is making waves. Its not too hard on the old ears. Did fine with my x-bow as well but that has, for my comfort, a 50-55 yrd cap. The standard XM-15 has a forged 7075T6 aircraft-grade aluminum upper and lower receiver. The 350 Legend is not a new idea or caliber really. He could have made a better choice in Charlton Heston and Tom Selleck. $995.00. Is she a looker or should she be in a moo-moo for public consumption? another good choice is a 20 ga with a rifled barrel . No follow up shot needed but have had zero feed issues on the Gunsite. He isn’t from Michigan, though… I think this might work better as a 10mm, but all the bullets are too light in both weight and construction. Also put took out a half moon in the front of the mags so nothing catches on the rounds. It’s about the only size left that hasn’t got the word magnum hung on it anywhere. The scout is 350 more but it is a beauty. At 50 grains Im compressing the load and sending the FTX pill downrange at 2540 fps, which I also recorded at 45.5gns during development. Do I need it? The answer to that is simple: vapid, ignorant bureaucrats in state and local government. Anyway, if you want to feedback on this my email address is: [email protected] dot com, I did not know much about the .450 BM, 1900 words later I still don’t. Its like asking which bikini is best without considering who is wearing it. It has a 20 inch barrel, medium length gas, and I use a heavy buffer. True, but it’s tucked into a corner of the state and is easily avoidable. I just heard back from Carson Lilja. BTW, who might you be? the same lower I still use with a .223 Wylde upper and it functions perfectly with that buffer. AND since then I have made several 450 BM uppers for various people and they have been flawless. AR Rifles: Bushmaster, Remington, Windham, and many others make good quality AR rifles for the .450. As far as rifles for this round go, you can find them from an increasing number of makers, but I’ll give you the highlights here: Ruger: In addition to their Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle, which may be one of the best medium-range hunting rifles you can own today, they also make their affordable Ruger American Rifle Ranch model in .450. At least you’ll never get called a bigot for saying that you’d rather shoot .45-70, unlike when I say that I’d rather watch the Star Wars Holiday Special than deal with Disney’s SJW agenda. OUT OF STOCK (13) Ruger 8334 American Rimfire Bolt .22 LR 18" Threaded Barrel 10+ OUT OF STOCK (2) Ruger HKM77LRSG 375 RUG GUIDE Stainless Steel $ 1,068.00. With 7.62X39 out of the question, I think that is still about the most that one can open up an AR bolt, at .447 inch. This rifle has a classic hunting rifle look with the walnut stock and blued finish. I enjoy that the .450 has brought a level of sport back to some otherwise foolish and idiotic trends in hunting. Michigan. 2) is easily the best of those legal in Iowa for rifles, even ahead of 45-70 govt yep you win. Now 22mag on Turkey yes! 2 of the impacts were from the deer running into the side of my car. 450 Bushmaster is the big bore good of AR , in fact I wouldn’t own one if I couldn’t fire off fifteen in a row without stopping. Youth Patriot models with variable length of pull and 20” barrels are also available. (I don’t know why this didn’t post with the original. But after its initial hang ups it worked flawlessly after 4 or 5 rounds As far as follow up shots, that was not a problem at all, it barely moved off of aim point which is inherent to the AR platform when done right. In my opinion, no rebated case is ever going to be satisfactory in an autoloading action. You have our attention as well. Hornady has a 250gr FTX load that has been the standard for years. Depends on what you are looking for. And I’m not in a beginner class by any measurable standard. Flattened primers and face full of unburnt powder is all I can get to. A semi auto 45-70 that never gives a minute of trouble is unbelievable. New left hand ae-15 in 450 Bushmaster. Perhaps with only a new, custom, follower. same problem with the 12 ga full power sabot slugs . Buckle up, kids, we’re going to cover a lot of ground in the next 1,900 words. Every one of those hits was from a deer clearing cover at full speed, head down in a full out run. 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Close range 6.5 creedmoor definitely only hits harder than your suggested 44 mag at 800yds . I’m a believer. After blowing holes through deer with my 30-06 and 35 Whelen and tracking them all day I bought a 450BM upper for my AR. Almost the whole way through, I’m thinking, “But I have NEVER had a loading or cycling problem with MY AR .450 BM using Brenton USA mags…”, Guess I did my homework first and picked the right magazine maker. , I’ve shot nothing but Hornady 250gr FTX and only have Brenton magazines for my .450 and have been thrilled with it (although I DID slap a Limbsaver recoil pad on it…). Douglas XX premium grade stainless; 1:16 twist; #5 contour. One wouldn’t even need to machine the bolt face. The scope and rings are NOT included. I just know what I am doing. The .450 has the potential to be a truly great cartridge, but it’s being held back by the limits of the AR platform. Do you have access to manufacturing facilities that might be of use in this project? Barrel . Also modded the uppers for a proper feed ramp and ejection port. If you want full pass through at 200 yards I would not use the Hornady Black, i does dump all the energy in the Deer but at the cost of none to low blood trail. Ill has us beat there . I have found a great round for the .450, made by Black Butterfly ammunition. I don’t know if it is mentioned in any of the many comments, but there is an excellent forum on the 450BM at http://www.450bushmaster.net. Used a standard buffer and spring and an adjustable gas block set wide open to start. SHOULD .450 Bushmaster be the best rifle round legal in Iowa? 450 stainless upper in the 18″ variety. Check it out and read what the people who really understand the cartridge and AR platform feel about it. Hit with this cartridge the deer just fold up and there is very little lost meat. 2 Brownells – AR-15 450 Bushmaster Barrel Stainless Steel. 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